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A recent interview has reignited a debate every patriot should care about: a decorated former Air Force contractor, identified publicly as Jake Barber, told Ross Coulthart and NewsNation that he worked on classified retrieval missions and even described hauling back a white, egg-shaped object his team deemed “not human.” The account is dramatic and unsettling, and it was presented on mainstream platforms with video clips and veteran corroboration that demand we pay attention rather than scoff.
Barber’s story didn’t stop at strange hardware; he says the program employed what he called “psionics” — people with alleged psychic or consciousness-based abilities who could, according to him, receive and transmit communications with nonhuman intelligences and even influence the arrival of these phenomena. Whether you call it metaphysics, remote viewing, or bad science, the claim that elements of our national security apparatus experimented with consciousness as a tool raises immediate questions about oversight, vetting, and expense.
NewsNation’s special and the extended interviews have amplified the tale, releasing footage they say shows a recovery operation and publishing testimony from multiple veterans who back parts of Barber’s resume and mission history. The coverage has predictably polarized audiences: some see brave whistleblowers and the long-overdue unmasking of secrets, while skeptical conservatives and professionals rightly ask for chain-of-custody information, corroborating documentation, and forensic analysis before we rewrite our national-security playbook.
The Department of Defense and the Pentagon’s All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office have been drawn into the story; while some public statements acknowledge awareness of whistleblower claims, official spokespeople say they have found no verifiable evidence that supports possession or reverse-engineering programs involving extraterrestrial materials. That equivocation is exactly why conservatives who believe in robust government must insist on blunt, public accountability — not press releases, not spin.
Journalist Ross Coulthart and others involved in this reporting say DoD investigators have engaged with witnesses and that AARO leadership has been in contact, which means this is not merely a fringe YouTube spectacle but a matter the Pentagon cannot ignore if national security is at stake. Whether Barber’s most extraordinary assertions survive scrutiny or prove to be tangled with human error and exaggeration, the possibility that classified programs touch on unknown technologies must be treated with the grave seriousness reserved for threats and secrets.
Here’s the conservative takeaway: honor veterans and protect whistleblowers who come forward in good faith, but do not permit a circus of sensationalism to override standards of evidence. Our military and intelligence institutions deserve vigorous oversight, not cultish fandom; Congress must hold hearings in public, subpoena records, and make clear to the American people what was done in their name. Patriots demand transparency that secures both truth and liberty.
Finally, taxpayers and parents should be alarmed by the murky role of private outfits and venture capital behind outfits like “Skywatcher” that Barber mentions. When national-security-adjacent enterprises mix private money, exotic claims about psychic assets, and the aura of secrecy, that is a recipe for fraud, exploitation, and operational risk — especially if these programs recruit vulnerable people or children for experiments under opaque contracts. We owe our service members better: rigorous inquiry, clear rules, and honest answers.
